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Katherine Marsden
The Edgent community has just about all the pieces in place, great well
designed reliable software for analytics at the edge, great Apache Way
attitude and  understanding and open development from the committers and
ppmc members, successful releases and good documentation of the release
process, very welcoming to anyone who shows interest in joining the
community, no sticky legal or IP issues that I anticipate.

The only significant problem I see at this point is growing the size and
diversity of the user and development community.  Our last new committer
was a year ago and just saw only two new subscribers to the dev list in
our last reporting period.

I think it is a good time to bring on a new mentor for Edgent to help
kick start community growth.   Any interest?

At Apachecon this week there are a couple of talks about Edgent.  Please
attend if you are there and spread the word to anyone who might have
interest in either mentoring or getting involved in the Edgent community
or trying Edgent.  Please forward to anyone who might be interested.


Tuesday May 16 2:30 pm:
     * Video Analytics at the Edge: Fun with Apache Edgent, OpenCV and a
       Raspberry Pi - Dale LaBossiere and William Marshall, ppmc members and
       committers for Edgent.

Wednesday May 17: 12:15pm:
     * Having fun with Raspberry(s) and Apache Projects - Jean-Frederic
Clere.

Even if you can't come on as a mentor, I would most appreciate advice on
what the current mentors can do. I can imagine lots of applications, but
I don't have a lot of industry contacts now and will soon retire from my
day job and will have even fewer.  I will probably have some time to
yell, "Rah, Rah Edgent!" , but not sure my captive audience (my little
brown dog)  has real interest or contacts either.

Best

Kathey

About Edgent

Apache Edgent is a programming model and micro-kernel style runtime that
can be embedded in gateways and small footprint edge devices enabling
local, real-time, analytics on the continuous streams of data coming
from equipment, vehicles, systems, appliances, devices and sensors of
all kinds (for example, Raspberry Pis or smart phones). Working in
conjunction with centralized analytic systems, Apache Edgent provides
efficient and timely analytics across the whole IoT ecosystem: from the
center to the edge.


http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/

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Re: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

William Marshall
Thanks for posting this, Kathey. For those who are interested in mentoring
Edgent or simply want to learn more, I will also be participating on behalf
of Edgent in the Podling Shark Tank event tomorrow:

*Tuesday*, May 16 • 4:40pm - 5:30pm
https://apachecon2017.sched.com/event/9zvZ/podling-shark-tank-roman-shaposhnik-pivotal-inc

-Will Marshall

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Katherine Marsden <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> The Edgent community has just about all the pieces in place, great well
> designed reliable software for analytics at the edge, great Apache Way
> attitude and  understanding and open development from the committers and
> ppmc members, successful releases and good documentation of the release
> process, very welcoming to anyone who shows interest in joining the
> community, no sticky legal or IP issues that I anticipate.
>
> The only significant problem I see at this point is growing the size and
> diversity of the user and development community.  Our last new committer
> was a year ago and just saw only two new subscribers to the dev list in our
> last reporting period.
>
> I think it is a good time to bring on a new mentor for Edgent to help kick
> start community growth.   Any interest?
>
> At Apachecon this week there are a couple of talks about Edgent.  Please
> attend if you are there and spread the word to anyone who might have
> interest in either mentoring or getting involved in the Edgent community or
> trying Edgent.  Please forward to anyone who might be interested.
>
>
> Tuesday May 16 2:30 pm:
>     * Video Analytics at the Edge: Fun with Apache Edgent, OpenCV and a
>       Raspberry Pi - Dale LaBossiere and William Marshall, ppmc members and
>       committers for Edgent.
>
> Wednesday May 17: 12:15pm:
>     * Having fun with Raspberry(s) and Apache Projects - Jean-Frederic
> Clere.
>
> Even if you can't come on as a mentor, I would most appreciate advice on
> what the current mentors can do. I can imagine lots of applications, but I
> don't have a lot of industry contacts now and will soon retire from my day
> job and will have even fewer.  I will probably have some time to yell,
> "Rah, Rah Edgent!" , but not sure my captive audience (my little brown
> dog)  has real interest or contacts either.
>
> Best
>
> Kathey
>
> About Edgent
>
> Apache Edgent is a programming model and micro-kernel style runtime that
> can be embedded in gateways and small footprint edge devices enabling
> local, real-time, analytics on the continuous streams of data coming from
> equipment, vehicles, systems, appliances, devices and sensors of all kinds
> (for example, Raspberry Pis or smart phones). Working in conjunction with
> centralized analytic systems, Apache Edgent provides efficient and timely
> analytics across the whole IoT ecosystem: from the center to the edge.
>
>
> http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/
>
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Re: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

John D. Ament-2
William,

Great presentation this afternoon.

I'd like offer to help you guys as a mentor, you do currently have 4
mentors.  Are all 4 mentors active in the project?

John

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:28 PM William Marshall <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for posting this, Kathey. For those who are interested in mentoring
> Edgent or simply want to learn more, I will also be participating on behalf
> of Edgent in the Podling Shark Tank event tomorrow:
>
> *Tuesday*, May 16 • 4:40pm - 5:30pm
>
> https://apachecon2017.sched.com/event/9zvZ/podling-shark-tank-roman-shaposhnik-pivotal-inc
>
> -Will Marshall
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Katherine Marsden <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > The Edgent community has just about all the pieces in place, great well
> > designed reliable software for analytics at the edge, great Apache Way
> > attitude and  understanding and open development from the committers and
> > ppmc members, successful releases and good documentation of the release
> > process, very welcoming to anyone who shows interest in joining the
> > community, no sticky legal or IP issues that I anticipate.
> >
> > The only significant problem I see at this point is growing the size and
> > diversity of the user and development community.  Our last new committer
> > was a year ago and just saw only two new subscribers to the dev list in
> our
> > last reporting period.
> >
> > I think it is a good time to bring on a new mentor for Edgent to help
> kick
> > start community growth.   Any interest?
> >
> > At Apachecon this week there are a couple of talks about Edgent.  Please
> > attend if you are there and spread the word to anyone who might have
> > interest in either mentoring or getting involved in the Edgent community
> or
> > trying Edgent.  Please forward to anyone who might be interested.
> >
> >
> > Tuesday May 16 2:30 pm:
> >     * Video Analytics at the Edge: Fun with Apache Edgent, OpenCV and a
> >       Raspberry Pi - Dale LaBossiere and William Marshall, ppmc members
> and
> >       committers for Edgent.
> >
> > Wednesday May 17: 12:15pm:
> >     * Having fun with Raspberry(s) and Apache Projects - Jean-Frederic
> > Clere.
> >
> > Even if you can't come on as a mentor, I would most appreciate advice on
> > what the current mentors can do. I can imagine lots of applications, but
> I
> > don't have a lot of industry contacts now and will soon retire from my
> day
> > job and will have even fewer.  I will probably have some time to yell,
> > "Rah, Rah Edgent!" , but not sure my captive audience (my little brown
> > dog)  has real interest or contacts either.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Kathey
> >
> > About Edgent
> >
> > Apache Edgent is a programming model and micro-kernel style runtime that
> > can be embedded in gateways and small footprint edge devices enabling
> > local, real-time, analytics on the continuous streams of data coming from
> > equipment, vehicles, systems, appliances, devices and sensors of all
> kinds
> > (for example, Raspberry Pis or smart phones). Working in conjunction with
> > centralized analytic systems, Apache Edgent provides efficient and timely
> > analytics across the whole IoT ecosystem: from the center to the edge.
> >
> >
> > http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/
> >
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Re: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

Katherine Marsden
On 5/16/17 2:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> William,
>
> Great presentation this afternoon.
>
> I'd like offer to help you guys as a mentor, you do currently have 4
> mentors.  Are all 4 mentors active in the project?
>

Hi John, I am not involved in the project from a technical perspective,
except I helped initially setting up the website and have done some
release testing and filed a few bugs.

As mentor I have been mostly just offering solicited and unsolicited
advice and maintaining the project status page (hmmm haven't looked at
that in a while, better check), posting the maturity model to the wiki
and reviewing and signing off on reports, etc.

I would be happy to commit to continuing  with this minimal role as
mentor  or step aside if that makes more sense given the number of
mentors if you will take over maintaining the project status page.  I
think the project needs your help a lot more than mine right now as the
folks working on the project seem to totally have a handle on everything
on which I could provide guidance.  If anyone on the project has
questions that I could answer,  I still certainly would be available to
answer.  One ppmc member requested I stay on for my "timely advice" [1]
but I certainly am never shy about giving  advice no matter my formal
role.  I am sure she wouldn't mind if I stepped down in my formal mentor
role if I stuck around on the dev list which I plan to.

Best

Kathey


[1]
https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/edgent-private/201704.mbox/%3C7F0611AB-B983-4398-8977-9EC99D662455@...%3E


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Re: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

William Marshall
Hi John, I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation, ApacheCon was a great
forum.

All mentors are currently active, and right now the way in which Edgent
most needs mentorship is in its outreach to developers. From a technical
perspective, I think Edgent is mature for its age and number of committers,
but to date we've only seen a few users actually adopt it in an
application. This is strange, given the amount of initial interest, but I
sense this is in part due the the name change from Quarks to Edgent.

Since Kathey is likely stepping down soon, you would be the 4th mentor (not
the there's any hard limit, as far as I'm aware). Given your experience
with podlings I think you would fit the role well. Any thoughts on the
outreach problem?

-Will

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Katherine Marsden <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 5/16/17 2:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
>
>> William,
>>
>> Great presentation this afternoon.
>>
>> I'd like offer to help you guys as a mentor, you do currently have 4
>> mentors.  Are all 4 mentors active in the project?
>>
>>
> Hi John, I am not involved in the project from a technical perspective,
> except I helped initially setting up the website and have done some release
> testing and filed a few bugs.
>
> As mentor I have been mostly just offering solicited and unsolicited
> advice and maintaining the project status page (hmmm haven't looked at that
> in a while, better check), posting the maturity model to the wiki and
> reviewing and signing off on reports, etc.
>
> I would be happy to commit to continuing  with this minimal role as
> mentor  or step aside if that makes more sense given the number of mentors
> if you will take over maintaining the project status page.  I think the
> project needs your help a lot more than mine right now as the folks working
> on the project seem to totally have a handle on everything on which I could
> provide guidance.  If anyone on the project has questions that I could
> answer,  I still certainly would be available to answer.  One ppmc member
> requested I stay on for my "timely advice" [1] but I certainly am never shy
> about giving  advice no matter my formal role.  I am sure she wouldn't mind
> if I stepped down in my formal mentor role if I stuck around on the dev
> list which I plan to.
>
> Best
>
> Kathey
>
>
> [1] https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/edgent-
> private/201704.mbox/%[hidden email]%3E
>
>
>
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Re: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

John D. Ament-2
Will,

(moving general@incubator to BCC)

I'll point out that the expectations of a podling are skewed based on how
that podling is operating.  If we see a high level of on list activity,
making it clear that its list first, it may make sense to graduate a less
diverse podling, simply because its clear that the podling understands the
expectations and will be clear about their decision making.  We can also
bank on mentors sticking around the PMC to keep them moving.

FWIW, my background is in messaging so I suspect from a technical
standpoint I get some of the integrations you're working on.  My eyes
always light up when I see MQTT or AMQP on a slide.

The easiest way to get more users is to leech on to existing projects that
seem to be going well.  Yes, I know "leech on" can be seen as negative, but
it helps draw some notion of what you're really after.  For instance, we
saw an IoT Operating System right before Edgent, is there an opportunity to
bake in a Mynewt distribution that includes Edgent, produced by the Edgent
community?  And if such a thing did exist, would existing Mynewt users
potentially use Edgent for their analytics?   You also listed a limitation
in the Edgent platform, focused on Java.  Does it make sense to produce a
Swift based client?

John

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 9:25 PM William Marshall <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi John, I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation, ApacheCon was a great
> forum.
>
> All mentors are currently active, and right now the way in which Edgent
> most needs mentorship is in its outreach to developers. From a technical
> perspective, I think Edgent is mature for its age and number of committers,
> but to date we've only seen a few users actually adopt it in an
> application. This is strange, given the amount of initial interest, but I
> sense this is in part due the the name change from Quarks to Edgent.
>
> Since Kathey is likely stepping down soon, you would be the 4th mentor (not
> the there's any hard limit, as far as I'm aware). Given your experience
> with podlings I think you would fit the role well. Any thoughts on the
> outreach problem?
>
> -Will
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Katherine Marsden <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On 5/16/17 2:17 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> >
> >> William,
> >>
> >> Great presentation this afternoon.
> >>
> >> I'd like offer to help you guys as a mentor, you do currently have 4
> >> mentors.  Are all 4 mentors active in the project?
> >>
> >>
> > Hi John, I am not involved in the project from a technical perspective,
> > except I helped initially setting up the website and have done some
> release
> > testing and filed a few bugs.
> >
> > As mentor I have been mostly just offering solicited and unsolicited
> > advice and maintaining the project status page (hmmm haven't looked at
> that
> > in a while, better check), posting the maturity model to the wiki and
> > reviewing and signing off on reports, etc.
> >
> > I would be happy to commit to continuing  with this minimal role as
> > mentor  or step aside if that makes more sense given the number of
> mentors
> > if you will take over maintaining the project status page.  I think the
> > project needs your help a lot more than mine right now as the folks
> working
> > on the project seem to totally have a handle on everything on which I
> could
> > provide guidance.  If anyone on the project has questions that I could
> > answer,  I still certainly would be available to answer.  One ppmc member
> > requested I stay on for my "timely advice" [1] but I certainly am never
> shy
> > about giving  advice no matter my formal role.  I am sure she wouldn't
> mind
> > if I stepped down in my formal mentor role if I stuck around on the dev
> > list which I plan to.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Kathey
> >
> >
> > [1] https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/edgent-
> > private/201704.mbox/%[hidden email]%3E
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

Martin Gainty
In reply to this post by Katherine Marsden
my first impression when i first saw this 25 years ago when we stuffed network analytics into a MIB was that

as long as you have SNMP protocol stack and RIPv2 enabled gateway you could pass traffic info from Network device to NetworkDevice.

Cisco is probably the only company that picked up the ball on this concept with its own protocol IGMP

consequently I havent heard about network analytics as NA r&d disappeared into Cisco private domain

Given the fact that entire countries have gone dark because of what we called "network storm" now called Denial of Service does it not make sense to revive the concept of network-aware imps if for no other reason than to route traffic away from busy networks or networks burdened by DOS attack vectors.?


maybe this is pipe dream but if we can somehow config network devices to become self-aware and intelligently

route traffic away from heavily trafficked nodes and networks.. I could easily see these algorithms implemented by network intensive apps such as zookeeper and zookeeper under kafka


Salutations to all (including dogs)

WDYT?

Martin
______________________________________________



________________________________
From: Katherine Marsden <[hidden email]>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:31 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus

The Edgent community has just about all the pieces in place, great well
designed reliable software for analytics at the edge, great Apache Way
attitude and  understanding and open development from the committers and
ppmc members, successful releases and good documentation of the release
process, very welcoming to anyone who shows interest in joining the
community, no sticky legal or IP issues that I anticipate.

The only significant problem I see at this point is growing the size and
diversity of the user and development community.  Our last new committer
was a year ago and just saw only two new subscribers to the dev list in
our last reporting period.

I think it is a good time to bring on a new mentor for Edgent to help
kick start community growth.   Any interest?

At Apachecon this week there are a couple of talks about Edgent.  Please
attend if you are there and spread the word to anyone who might have
interest in either mentoring or getting involved in the Edgent community
or trying Edgent.  Please forward to anyone who might be interested.


Tuesday May 16 2:30 pm:
     * Video Analytics at the Edge: Fun with Apache Edgent, OpenCV and a
       Raspberry Pi - Dale LaBossiere and William Marshall, ppmc members and
       committers for Edgent.

Wednesday May 17: 12:15pm:
     * Having fun with Raspberry(s) and Apache Projects - Jean-Frederic
Clere.

Even if you can't come on as a mentor, I would most appreciate advice on
what the current mentors can do. I can imagine lots of applications, but
I don't have a lot of industry contacts now and will soon retire from my
day job and will have even fewer.  I will probably have some time to
yell, "Rah, Rah Edgent!" , but not sure my captive audience (my little
brown dog)  has real interest or contacts either.

Best

Kathey

About Edgent

Apache Edgent is a programming model and micro-kernel style runtime that
can be embedded in gateways and small footprint edge devices enabling
local, real-time, analytics on the continuous streams of data coming
from equipment, vehicles, systems, appliances, devices and sensors of
all kinds (for example, Raspberry Pis or smart phones). Working in
conjunction with centralized analytic systems, Apache Edgent provides
efficient and timely analytics across the whole IoT ecosystem: from the
center to the edge.


http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/
Apache Edgent<http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/>
edgent.incubator.apache.org
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Katherine Marsden-2
Hi Martin,

This sounds really interesting! I am redirecting to the Edgent dev list and bcc'ing [hidden email] so the conversation can continue there. I hope you will join there. Maybe we could have an edge analytics ideas wiki page to spark ideas and interest.

Best

Katherine

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 17, 2017, at 1:10 PM, Martin Gainty <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> my first impression when i first saw this 25 years ago when we stuffed network analytics into a MIB was that
>
> as long as you have SNMP protocol stack and RIPv2 enabled gateway you could pass traffic info from Network device to NetworkDevice.
>
> Cisco is probably the only company that picked up the ball on this concept with its own protocol IGMP
>
> consequently I havent heard about network analytics as NA r&d disappeared into Cisco private domain
>
> Given the fact that entire countries have gone dark because of what we called "network storm" now called Denial of Service does it not make sense to revive the concept of network-aware imps if for no other reason than to route traffic away from busy networks or networks burdened by DOS attack vectors.?
>
>
> maybe this is pipe dream but if we can somehow config network devices to become self-aware and intelligently
>
> route traffic away from heavily trafficked nodes and networks.. I could easily see these algorithms implemented by network intensive apps such as zookeeper and zookeeper under kafka
>
>
> Salutations to all (including dogs)
>
> WDYT?
>
> Martin
> ______________________________________________
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Katherine Marsden <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:31 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Looking for additional mentor for Edgent with community growth ideas/focus
>
> The Edgent community has just about all the pieces in place, great well
> designed reliable software for analytics at the edge, great Apache Way
> attitude and  understanding and open development from the committers and
> ppmc members, successful releases and good documentation of the release
> process, very welcoming to anyone who shows interest in joining the
> community, no sticky legal or IP issues that I anticipate.
>
> The only significant problem I see at this point is growing the size and
> diversity of the user and development community.  Our last new committer
> was a year ago and just saw only two new subscribers to the dev list in
> our last reporting period.
>
> I think it is a good time to bring on a new mentor for Edgent to help
> kick start community growth.   Any interest?
>
> At Apachecon this week there are a couple of talks about Edgent.  Please
> attend if you are there and spread the word to anyone who might have
> interest in either mentoring or getting involved in the Edgent community
> or trying Edgent.  Please forward to anyone who might be interested.
>
>
> Tuesday May 16 2:30 pm:
>     * Video Analytics at the Edge: Fun with Apache Edgent, OpenCV and a
>       Raspberry Pi - Dale LaBossiere and William Marshall, ppmc members and
>       committers for Edgent.
>
> Wednesday May 17: 12:15pm:
>     * Having fun with Raspberry(s) and Apache Projects - Jean-Frederic
> Clere.
>
> Even if you can't come on as a mentor, I would most appreciate advice on
> what the current mentors can do. I can imagine lots of applications, but
> I don't have a lot of industry contacts now and will soon retire from my
> day job and will have even fewer.  I will probably have some time to
> yell, "Rah, Rah Edgent!" , but not sure my captive audience (my little
> brown dog)  has real interest or contacts either.
>
> Best
>
> Kathey
>
> About Edgent
>
> Apache Edgent is a programming model and micro-kernel style runtime that
> can be embedded in gateways and small footprint edge devices enabling
> local, real-time, analytics on the continuous streams of data coming
> from equipment, vehicles, systems, appliances, devices and sensors of
> all kinds (for example, Raspberry Pis or smart phones). Working in
> conjunction with centralized analytic systems, Apache Edgent provides
> efficient and timely analytics across the whole IoT ecosystem: from the
> center to the edge.
>
>
> http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/
> Apache Edgent<http://edgent.incubator.apache.org/>
> edgent.incubator.apache.org
> Apache Edgent is a programming model and micro-kernel style runtime that can be embedded in gateways and small footprint edge devices enabling local, real-time ...
>
>
>
>
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